Two recent interviews help us understand that some governments are serious about addressing the problem of global warming. Both Sweden and Great Britain are proving to be innovative in this regard. The first interview is with Sir David King, Prime Minister Tony Blair's Science Advisor. http://globetrotter.berkeley.edu/people5/King/king-con0.html The second interview http://globetrotter.berkeley.edu/people6/Liljelund/liljelund-con0.html is with Lars-Erik Liljelund, Director of Sweden's Environmental Protection Agency. Both interviews provide fascinating accounts of the meshing of science and politics to create a public consensus on moving forward while experimenting with medium term national policies.